(..) to Port Hueneme or Santa Paula, it's about miles, and we do a deal with Union Oil. This is what we do. Then we don't need the railroads and their shipping costs anymore. You see? Yeah. -You see that? -Yeah. Then we're making money. We're making the real money. What we should be making. Not just... Not just throwing it away on shipping costs. Otherwise, it's just mud. How much are we going to pay them? Who's that? The Sunday family. I'm not going to give them oil prices. (..)